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Post by rich357 on Feb 26, 2009 15:34:20 GMT -5
Phooey!   I've tried quite a few things with getting my RB on the server to work. Tried resetting to port 80 and it would not take. With or without launching the server does no better. If any of you want to make some money and get this thing working for me I'll gladly pay you for your time. Along with free web space if you want. |
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 26, 2009 19:02:07 GMT -5
It's got me wondering about exactly what kind of server this is that you're running RB on. It is a virtual private server? A dedicated box? Or it is one of those inexpensive shared accounts with a control panel and such?
-Carl
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Post by rich357 on Feb 26, 2009 20:12:24 GMT -5
It is supposed to be my machine 100%. I even rebooted the thing today after trying a few things and still nothing. I thought I had made some progress when I tried loading hangman I got "404" instead of "Problem loading page". When I tried to put it on port 80 and clicked "yes" the progress bar got up to about 40% and I waited and waited. One reload of RB said it was serving on port 80 but after the reboot, back to 8008. The company is www.server4you.comPerhaps you could talk to them and find out exactly what I need to do? As I will soon have two apps that I will need to use RB with. |
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Post by Jerry Muelver on Feb 27, 2009 7:20:14 GMT -5
Should work, Rich. I'm currently running 14 RB servers at runbasicnet.com on a Windows Server 2003 setup, with only an occasional glitch caused by Microsoft's heavy-handed forced updates with human intervention required for reboot. |
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Post by votan on Feb 27, 2009 10:17:16 GMT -5
Rather edit the port manually in the prefs.xml file. I had the same strange "caching" behaviour once....
Then, as this is a cheap hosting plan that includes standart webservices, make sure you either switched off all other webservers (apache or IIS) as they will listening on port 80 already or moved them to another port.
Also check your servers firewall and allow RB for incoming and outgoing traffic. But that is probably not needed.... cause port 80 should be able by default.
When that is done, you should be able to access RB on your server through port 80.
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Post by rich357 on Feb 27, 2009 11:00:20 GMT -5
votan I just tried your trick on my laptop and that seemed to work just fine so I'll try that on the server once.
Well at least the console says I'm working on port 80 now.
tried calling up one of the demo apps and got a "404" so something isn't quite right.
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Post by votan on Feb 27, 2009 17:44:36 GMT -5
Ok... a 404 means that you have a webserver responding... What does the browser window say in the absolute upper left?? Is there something like "IIS" or "APACHE" or something else? If so, you still have another server responding, what means you first have to disable it as it occupies port 80. Or have you already been able to start the RB login / editor?  |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 27, 2009 22:03:46 GMT -5
The responding error window just gives the bare basics. No mention of IIS or anything else.
What other server? AFAIK I only have one.
So far I have not been able to start the login page from anywhere but within the remote desktop. Would I need an index page in the rdp folder to do that?
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Post by votan on Feb 28, 2009 3:28:24 GMT -5
You don't need anything like an index file or else to set up RB.... What exactly did you start via remote desktop? The RB console or the browserwindow containing the login to the editor??? What happens if you type "http://localhost:80" in your browser while being on remote desktop with RB running? This will obey all firewall rules or whatever...... so if this does bring up a 404 error, you for sure have another webserver responding. A webserver isn't the the machine itself... it's the software on that machine.... so you could have several different webservers running on your machine.... and thats probably the case here. As for the error window... I didn't mean any staus messages inside the window, but the stuff that's written to the upper left corner of the frame.... so right above all the browsers navigation and options stuff (Title bar  ). It will give you a hint about where you are connected to. |
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Post by StefanPendl on Feb 28, 2009 4:20:02 GMT -5
As for the error window... I didn't mean any staus messages inside the window, but the stuff that's written to the upper left corner of the frame.... so right above all the browsers navigation and options stuff. It will give you a hint about where you are connected to. This is called the title bar of the browser window |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 28, 2009 9:30:41 GMT -5
I tried in both FF and IE and neither show anything about IIS or apache in the title bar area.
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Post by StefanPendl on Feb 28, 2009 13:46:39 GMT -5
I checked the home page and noticed that they install "Windows Server 2003 Web Enhanced Edition". IIS would be installed by default and running, so you need to go to Control Panel => Management => Internet Information Service and turn it off, if you like to use the Run BASIC server only. You should be able to let RB use port 8008 and forward it through IIS to port 80, the default web port. Sorry have not done that, so I am of no help in this case, but IIS comes with a help file and F1 is always your friend. You may check the IIS Configuration Reference for additional information. |
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 28, 2009 13:49:51 GMT -5
Yeah, it sounds to me like he's probably already got a webserver running. So, if that's true he will need to ask his ISP to tear that out and open port 80. If his ISP's techies cannot meet his needs he should abandon that account and purchase VPS service somewhere. Or he can go with runbasicnet.com. If he currently has a shared hosting account which is a single machine running a single web server set up to host more than one customer, I doubt he will be able to make that work. VPS service is the way to go, and I've seen such accounts for $30/month. Ok... a 404 means that you have a webserver responding... What does the browser window say in the absolute upper left?? Is there something like "IIS" or "APACHE" or something else? If so, you still have another server responding, what means you first have to disable it as it occupies port 80. Or have you already been able to start the RB login / editor? |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 28, 2009 14:15:09 GMT -5
Carl, if I read this right, I should disable the RB server itself and let the windows server handle it?
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Post by StefanPendl on Feb 28, 2009 14:23:25 GMT -5
Carl, if I read this right, I should disable the RB server itself and let the windows server handle it? No. On your server, which is set up with Win2k3 Web Edition, the Microsoft Internet Information Service is already occupying port 80. You need to run the RB server, but you can turn off IIS. Since you have a domain attached to the IIS service, I would not disable it, but set up IIS to host your published RB applications. |
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). It will give you a hint about where you are connected to.