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Post by rich357 on Feb 16, 2009 10:32:09 GMT -5
Over the weekend I had my linux machine reinstalled with windows server 2003.
Before I go totally screwing things up I'd thought I'd ask first.
After I upload the exe file to the root directory, and click to activate, what is going to happen next?
After all, a full fledged server running on the plesk panel system is not your local machine where you are under total control and you expect things to work normally.
If you've done this, what's my next step and do you have anything to share about how you got run basic to work on your machine?
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Post by rich357 on Feb 16, 2009 14:38:08 GMT -5
Ok now I'm being told that I can not simply install the exe file as one does on the old PC. Then, the plesk stuff might not let it run right.
So Carl, what we need is a version that will actually run on a true server, not just acting as a server on a home based system. After all, isn't this one of the reasons why run basic was created? So that applications could be utilized within the html pages.
As I have two items where utuilizing run basic is essential to their nature. As well as to make things easier not only for me, but for the user. Of course, I could do them the old fashioned way and wind up with several thousands of files and folders to keep track of.
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Post by votan on Feb 16, 2009 18:09:59 GMT -5
Hmmm..... I actually have RB running on my windows Server 2003. But why use some crap like Plex when you can use remote desktop? Aynway... RB comes as an installer and is not a single executable for direct use... Alternatively you can install / extract the executable to a local machine and move the files over to the server.... then add the following to the startup "rbp.exe rb.im". This way RB will start automatically on boot. Default port for RB is 8008... so after successfully starting RB go to your ip or domain www.yourwhateversite.com:8008 and RB should pop up. Make sure to allow traffic for RB in your firewall.. else nothing will happen. If you have another server running like apache or IIS, check the hosting section of this forum for how to proxy RB. Anyway.... as you said you installed windows 2003 I assume you have full root access to your server.... then better use remote desktop instead of plesk. This will allow you to have really full access to everything the easy way. |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 16, 2009 19:22:08 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking as the RB exe you download is actually a self extractor. I haven't yet used the remote desktop but I will try it out tonight.
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 17, 2009 11:56:44 GMT -5
Ok now I'm being told that I can not simply install the exe file as one does on the old PC. Then, the plesk stuff might not let it run right. I'm not sure what you mean. Who told you that? I'm guessing you're just having trouble with installation? If the installer doesn't work for some reason, you should be able to get away with zipping up the Run BASIC folder as installed on another machine and then copying it to the server. Then it should start okay there. -Carl |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 17, 2009 20:31:02 GMT -5
Carl, the way you have it set up is for the home PC. On a real time server, how do you activate the server part of RB?
When I click the exe on MY home machine, I get asked if I want to start serving or launch in browser. This part does not happen on a web page that I am aware of. Nor will it happen when I click on it when I do so in the file manager.
So far on my server online, I have not been able to use the remote desktop because of an issue with that.
Perhaps what we need is some kind of a tutorial on how to set it up on different servres.
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Post by StefanPendl on Feb 18, 2009 4:03:36 GMT -5
Do you have full access to the operating system level  Generally most hosting services are not meant to run RB as the server. There is only one hosting service with full RB support: Run BASIC net. It would be interesting, what hosting service you are using, so the specifications could be checked, if running RB is even possible. |
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Post by votan on Feb 18, 2009 5:32:42 GMT -5
So, it seems like your host does not allow direct RDP!?
But depending on how Plesk is configured, you can also use Plesk for remote desktopping.... Normally RDP is always included with a windows root server hosting plan.
1. In Plesk, go to Server under System.
2. Under Services section, click the icon Remote Desktop.
3. You will need to choose the resolution size of the Remote Desktop window, and the method to connect to Remote Desktop based on your browser.
4. Then click OK and it will pop up a new browser window that will show your Remote Desktop session.
...What exactly happens when you try to connect through the build in windows RDP?
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 18, 2009 10:26:28 GMT -5
Carl, the way you have it set up is for the home PC. On a real time server, how do you activate the server part of RB? When I click the exe on MY home machine, I get asked if I want to start serving or launch in browser. This part does not happen on a web page that I am aware of. Nor will it happen when I click on it when I do so in the file manager. When you start Run BASIC it is running by default. You don't have to start it. The problem could be that Run BASIC is trying to open a window when it starts. Does your server have a desktop running? I do need to release a version of Run BASIC that does not have a console window. -Carl |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 18, 2009 11:11:24 GMT -5
I finally got my remote desktop to open up and work. Seems I had missed a character in the password.  I have uploaded the files onto the machine. So what's my next step so make RB fully functional? I'm a bit technically challenged so please say exactly where and how to do something. Not just "enter the stuff". As there are many places as to where to enter something. |
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 18, 2009 13:17:11 GMT -5
I finally got my remote desktop to open up and work. Seems I had missed a character in the password. I have uploaded the files onto the machine. So what's my next step so make RB fully functional? I'm a bit technically challenged so please say exactly where and how to do something. Not just "enter the stuff". As there are many places as to where to enter something. You've copied it to Windows Server 2003 installation? What did you upload, a copy of the already installed folder from another machine? If so, and if the drive letters are the same from source to destination you should only need to open a command prompt, cd to the folder and type rbp.exe rb.im and press Enter. From there it should be ready to go as long as the firewall is set up to permit traffic to the 8008 port. -Carl |
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Post by rich357 on Feb 18, 2009 14:05:18 GMT -5
Thanks all.
I now have installed RB on my machine and it is operational.
Found out quickly though I can't run the projects as they are due to path names not matching. But should not be a problem once I publish a page on my local machine and upload it. We shall see.
I do like working with the remote desk top.
Now that it's operational, how do I access it through my browser?
What do I enter for a url?
Also, what files do I need to upload so it will work as an html page?
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Post by Carl Gundel - admin on Feb 18, 2009 18:08:59 GMT -5
Hi,
You can't run any of the projects because of pathnames? Have you clicked on the Preferences tab and adjusted the projects and resources root paths?
If you want to access Run BASIC from a web browser where you are, the machine you're running on must open port 8008 (or preferably port 80 if you've changed it to use that).
-Carl
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