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Post by gordonsweet on Oct 29, 2007 9:10:52 GMT -5
I do not know what plans Carl has for RB as to how it is intended to be financed eventually. I would have thought it impractical to make the final version completely free as with JB, where I suppose the prime purpose is naturally to persuade serious programmers to move onto purchasing LB. However it seems to me RB is really quite unlike LB in so many ways.
There are many like me who either do not run a web site or are unwilling to leave their PC on line 24 hours a day on the off chance some might wish to access their site to make use of some RB code ( my site mostly gets visited by just a handful a day ). To encourage us to purchase the final version of RB, it would help a great deal if it included a package of web space to host our code, the price of which would depend of the amount of space allowed. The code would of course need to be accessed 24 hours per day.
Does this sound practical?
Gordon S.
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Post by turbov21 on Oct 29, 2007 10:02:39 GMT -5
I would have thought it impractical to make the final version completely free as with JB, where I suppose the prime purpose is naturally to persuade serious programmers to move onto purchasing LB. Did I miss an announcement? I thought RB Personal was going to be between $25 and $50, with a later RB Professional clocking in at around $100. That said...RuN BASIC convinced me to go on and buy Liberty BASIC where Just BASIC had previously failed, so pitching RB as a kind of loss leader doesn't seem wholly impractical...but I haven't seen any mention of RB being free. To encourage us to purchase the final version of RB, it would help a great deal if it included a package of web space to host our code... AKAIK, IANCG (I Am Not Carl Gundel), there are a few features coming in Beta 5 (and I guess, ultimately the final release candidate) that would make hosting RB code fairly possible once someone built a content manager for login access, uploading files, etc.
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Post by mikeukmid on Oct 29, 2007 11:35:12 GMT -5
Surely the beauty of RB is that you can host your own web apps without paying for hosting services.
Mike.
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Post by carlgundel on Oct 29, 2007 13:48:55 GMT -5
There are many like me who either do not run a web site or are unwilling to leave their PC on line 24 hours a day on the off chance some might wish to access their site to make use of some RB code ( my site mostly gets visited by just a handful a day ). I'm not trying to sell RB to people who do not want to host server. Here is my market: -People who want to learn web programming -People who want to run programs in a web browser on their own computer -People who want to host an application on a local area network -People who want to host an application on the Internet This is not a small market. I am not interested in hosting RB websites at this time. If RB can be made easily hostable by other ISPs, then this may be a way for someone who doesn't want to use their own machine. -Carl
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Post by carlgundel on Oct 29, 2007 13:52:22 GMT -5
I would have thought it impractical to make the final version completely free as with JB, where I suppose the prime purpose is naturally to persuade serious programmers to move onto purchasing LB. Did I miss an announcement? I thought RB Personal was going to be between $25 and $50, with a later RB Professional clocking in at around $100. That said...RuN BASIC convinced me to go on and buy Liberty BASIC where Just BASIC had previously failed, so pitching RB as a kind of loss leader doesn't seem wholly impractical...but I haven't seen any mention of RB being free. RB will be introduced at $29.95 for two weeks. After that the price will go up to $59.95. The Pro version will almost certainly cost more than $100, but the price isn't set yet. A free version isn't out of the question, provided some clever marketing scheme can be designed. A version that ISPs can host or even offer as a feature to their customers is an interesting prospect. -Carl
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